Church name Vive college Ministries/ part of Antioch Korean church website= http://viveministries.org/home.php address_____Antioch Korean Church -Philadelphia, PA _______________________________________________
Name of Pastor____Jacob Kim____________________________ Date attended____Feb 11, 07____________
First ImpressionsWas the building easy to find? If you drove, was it hard to find parking? How about the exterior or interior signage – what would you do differently?Yes it was very easy to find, lot’s of parking. Did anyone approach you and speak to you before the service got underway? If so, how did you feel about that? Can you share their name(s)? Did you know them before your visit?Yes, several people approached me and spoke with me, the pastor and several other people I did not know…3. General ObservationsAs you observe the people “doing their church thing”, what goes through your mind? Are you able to understand why they do what they do? Do they seem sincere?I understood what they did and thought it was very sincere!What do you think about the rituals (the liturgy or the program)?They were very un-ritualisticCheck out the church program/bulletin. Is there anything in it you find confusing or offensive? If this were your “business” how would you improve this communication piece?I think it was laid out very well, easy to read and informative.4. Music & PrayerWhat did you think of the music? Did you enjoy any of it? Was it boring? Write down the feelings you had while watching or participating. The worship was very good, simple music, two guitars and a piano, but it was very good.What did you think of the prayers? As you listened to the prayers, what did you learn about the people, either good or bad? Did they “major in the majors” or get lost in the minors?The prayers were very good5. The TalkDid the speaker or pastor seem likeable? Weird? Is she/he a person you’d enjoy having coffee with? If not, why not? How about the quality of her/his talk: does the speaker need public speaking lessons or is she/he pretty good? Did she/he seem engaged/sincere/condescending? The pastor was very neat, he was very funny and down to earth. I really like Pastor Jacob Kim and would love to hang out with him.Did the talk itself hold your attention? Was it enjoyable? Thought-provoking? Relevant? Credible? Did any part(s) of it particularly stand out to you in a positive or negative way?The message was very relevant and I really enjoyed it. I had a great time and learned a lot from it.6. After the Service/MeetingDid anyone approach you and speak to you after the service ended? If so, how did you feel about that? Can you share their name(s)? Did you know them before visiting?I talked with a bunch of people after the service and they were all very friendly. We had pizza and just hung out for a while. Did you bring any adults or children with you to our service? If so, ask them about their experience. What did they tell you?no, it was college age7. Concluding ThoughtsHow was your experience at the church overall? Did you enjoy it? Would there be any point in you going there again? I really enjoyed it and would definitely go back some time…If this church expects to attract people like yourself, what do you suggest they improve that you haven’t already mentioned? Advertise a little more thats it
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Sunday, February 11, 2007
Interview with Mike Hammer
Pastor Mike Hammer
Pastor Mike’s interview was very interesting and neat. I really enjoyed his love and passion for people. He really had a heart to reach out to hurting people and to bring healing from Jesus Christ. Pastor Mike had a very interesting testimony and it was really neat to hear about his life as a traveling evangelist. Pastor Mike also seemed very well rounded to me, he was involved in a lot of ministries including evangelism, worship, singles ministries, pasturing Celebration Community Church in Dillsburg, PA, and also in counseling and healing retreats with Bridges.
The Bridge ministry was pretty interesting; I had personally never been in a counseling session before and have never thought about my childhood in the way we did that night. I found that nothing really surfaced out of the session; but I have had a relatively problem free childhood. Although nothing life changing surfaced for me I did learn a lot about things he spoke on such as the ice burg model. I think that I live far too much in the what part and need to focus more on the why section of my life.
Keep up the great work your going for Christ and continue allowing the spirit to guide you Pastor Mike! Thank you!
Pastor Mike’s interview was very interesting and neat. I really enjoyed his love and passion for people. He really had a heart to reach out to hurting people and to bring healing from Jesus Christ. Pastor Mike had a very interesting testimony and it was really neat to hear about his life as a traveling evangelist. Pastor Mike also seemed very well rounded to me, he was involved in a lot of ministries including evangelism, worship, singles ministries, pasturing Celebration Community Church in Dillsburg, PA, and also in counseling and healing retreats with Bridges.
The Bridge ministry was pretty interesting; I had personally never been in a counseling session before and have never thought about my childhood in the way we did that night. I found that nothing really surfaced out of the session; but I have had a relatively problem free childhood. Although nothing life changing surfaced for me I did learn a lot about things he spoke on such as the ice burg model. I think that I live far too much in the what part and need to focus more on the why section of my life.
Keep up the great work your going for Christ and continue allowing the spirit to guide you Pastor Mike! Thank you!
Monday, February 5, 2007
Interview with Friend #1
Un-churched Friend #1
I interviewed J for my un-churched friend; he’s 20 years old male that lives in Birdsboro, PA. I went to high school and now work with him, and have known him for about four years. I have talked with him before and somewhat knew where he was coming from before the interview, but the responses he gave were interesting and good to know.
J has never attended any church regularly and has not been to a service since he was a child. He believes that the area he lives in is in greatest need of a role model and leader, someone that can help people and stays away from drugs and alcohol. I also asked him about youth in the area and he responded similarly and thought it should be someone over 21 years old. J said that he is most affected by political issues, and from what I have seen it seems to be something that frustrates him. He said that most people do not attend church because they are too lazy, church is too early in the morning, they’re too busy, and that people have mixed beliefs within families especially within marriages. I asked J if he did attend a church what would it look like and act like: he said that it would agree with what he believes, it would have a larger number of younger people, good music like a band, a smaller church, friendly as in shakes hands but no hugging, and also a church where you can get in and get out. The last statement, “get in and get out,” kind of surprised me, I could see him being someone to stay and talk. What advice would you give a pastor who wanted to be helpful to people? He responded to this by saying someone who was willing to do there best, and also now that you cannot reach everyone. J seems to really place emphasis on leadership.
His idea of Jesus is “he’s the man,” hero, leader, really was God’s son, and that he was also Godly or righteous. J said that he might possibly go to church in the future but it depends on things like, wife, getting up in time for church, his schedule to slow down, a girlfriend that would bring him or if it matched the list written above. He said that when he thinks of a Christian he thinks of me, that hit me deep, but he said that he views Christians as strong, positive people that have strong beliefs. His idea of sin and heaven and hell was also interesting. He believes in sins and views them as mistakes and regrets, such as murdering, stealing, or anything that hurts people. In order to get into heaven he said you should be a good person, and live a less sinful life; hell is for people that are generally just evil or people that hurt people.
I interviewed J for my un-churched friend; he’s 20 years old male that lives in Birdsboro, PA. I went to high school and now work with him, and have known him for about four years. I have talked with him before and somewhat knew where he was coming from before the interview, but the responses he gave were interesting and good to know.
J has never attended any church regularly and has not been to a service since he was a child. He believes that the area he lives in is in greatest need of a role model and leader, someone that can help people and stays away from drugs and alcohol. I also asked him about youth in the area and he responded similarly and thought it should be someone over 21 years old. J said that he is most affected by political issues, and from what I have seen it seems to be something that frustrates him. He said that most people do not attend church because they are too lazy, church is too early in the morning, they’re too busy, and that people have mixed beliefs within families especially within marriages. I asked J if he did attend a church what would it look like and act like: he said that it would agree with what he believes, it would have a larger number of younger people, good music like a band, a smaller church, friendly as in shakes hands but no hugging, and also a church where you can get in and get out. The last statement, “get in and get out,” kind of surprised me, I could see him being someone to stay and talk. What advice would you give a pastor who wanted to be helpful to people? He responded to this by saying someone who was willing to do there best, and also now that you cannot reach everyone. J seems to really place emphasis on leadership.
His idea of Jesus is “he’s the man,” hero, leader, really was God’s son, and that he was also Godly or righteous. J said that he might possibly go to church in the future but it depends on things like, wife, getting up in time for church, his schedule to slow down, a girlfriend that would bring him or if it matched the list written above. He said that when he thinks of a Christian he thinks of me, that hit me deep, but he said that he views Christians as strong, positive people that have strong beliefs. His idea of sin and heaven and hell was also interesting. He believes in sins and views them as mistakes and regrets, such as murdering, stealing, or anything that hurts people. In order to get into heaven he said you should be a good person, and live a less sinful life; hell is for people that are generally just evil or people that hurt people.
This interview was very neat for me because I felt like it really opened a door he J and I to talk and for me to better understand what he believes and where he comes from. The biggest thing that impacted me was when he said he thought of me when he thought of a Christian; this was exciting and neat because I feel like I actual am viewed in a positive and strong way.
Thursday, February 1, 2007
Interview: Brian Bolt
Brian Bolt
Pittsburgh City Outreach
Testimony:
Brian was born in Maryland and was quickly introduced to drugs. His teenage years growing up in San Diego were no easier; they brought him deeper and deeper into drugs and smuggling from Mexico. When he turned 18 he was forced to pick between jail or the military by a court of law, he choice the Navy. Brian was later discharged from the Navy and used his military ID to get in and out of Mexico dealing with more drugs. One night Brian was in a bar trying to make some deals when a fight broke out and he was shot point blank in the head with a .22. He was told by the paramedics that he would not make it to the hospital and that he better know where he is going after death. Seventy-five days later, after recovery surgery, Brian was released from the hospital. After that Brian was once again back on the streets causing trouble; one night a group of Mexican approached him, “I thought they were going to mug me,” and they asked him if he knew Jesus Christ. That was the turning point in Brian’s life! After a period of recovery time and relationship growing Brian began to accept his new identity in Christ. He worked along side of Nicky Cruz in evangelism outreaches and become involved in ministry. Later Brian joined with Gettysburg Masters Commission. Within his first year he met his future wife and they were married, after some bumps and trials Brian and his new wife Angie were accepted back into M.C…. Today Brian operates a men’s home in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh City Outreach. There motto is: we are vision driven, and go after the worst of he worst. Brian and his team work with 14 guys right now who are growing away from past life styles and toward recovery in Christ Jesus.
My thoughts:
Brian and his guys were great; they had awesome hearts after Christ. He has authentic and real, Brian was someone you could trust with everything you had, and yet you would never want to bad mouth him. Brian was acting in the way God made him to be he didn’t conform to the stereotypical Christian and that’s what sets him and his outreach apart. Pittsburgh City Outreach as a group looked to God for understanding and were not out to please people, he didn’t care what people thought of him, his identity in Christ was steady and steadfast. Brian ran the home in a way that focused o relationships with each other and with God, but this was not our typical relationships. These guys worked hard and were with each other in the good and the bad! They worked together and placed trust and love in one another. They were really centralized around community and it made them strong together. This closeness really allowed for growth into a new life and in Christ. There vision and passion for men and women around the Pittsburgh area was exciting. They dealt with different personalities and experiences every day. They really seemed to emphasize trusting in the Lord for their needs and that was very neat! I thought Brian was a great man of God, and I look forward to seeing him continue to grow in Christ and to see his ministry blossom.
Brian was born in Maryland and was quickly introduced to drugs. His teenage years growing up in San Diego were no easier; they brought him deeper and deeper into drugs and smuggling from Mexico. When he turned 18 he was forced to pick between jail or the military by a court of law, he choice the Navy. Brian was later discharged from the Navy and used his military ID to get in and out of Mexico dealing with more drugs. One night Brian was in a bar trying to make some deals when a fight broke out and he was shot point blank in the head with a .22. He was told by the paramedics that he would not make it to the hospital and that he better know where he is going after death. Seventy-five days later, after recovery surgery, Brian was released from the hospital. After that Brian was once again back on the streets causing trouble; one night a group of Mexican approached him, “I thought they were going to mug me,” and they asked him if he knew Jesus Christ. That was the turning point in Brian’s life! After a period of recovery time and relationship growing Brian began to accept his new identity in Christ. He worked along side of Nicky Cruz in evangelism outreaches and become involved in ministry. Later Brian joined with Gettysburg Masters Commission. Within his first year he met his future wife and they were married, after some bumps and trials Brian and his new wife Angie were accepted back into M.C…. Today Brian operates a men’s home in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh City Outreach. There motto is: we are vision driven, and go after the worst of he worst. Brian and his team work with 14 guys right now who are growing away from past life styles and toward recovery in Christ Jesus.
My thoughts:
Brian and his guys were great; they had awesome hearts after Christ. He has authentic and real, Brian was someone you could trust with everything you had, and yet you would never want to bad mouth him. Brian was acting in the way God made him to be he didn’t conform to the stereotypical Christian and that’s what sets him and his outreach apart. Pittsburgh City Outreach as a group looked to God for understanding and were not out to please people, he didn’t care what people thought of him, his identity in Christ was steady and steadfast. Brian ran the home in a way that focused o relationships with each other and with God, but this was not our typical relationships. These guys worked hard and were with each other in the good and the bad! They worked together and placed trust and love in one another. They were really centralized around community and it made them strong together. This closeness really allowed for growth into a new life and in Christ. There vision and passion for men and women around the Pittsburgh area was exciting. They dealt with different personalities and experiences every day. They really seemed to emphasize trusting in the Lord for their needs and that was very neat! I thought Brian was a great man of God, and I look forward to seeing him continue to grow in Christ and to see his ministry blossom.
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